The shorts are well made and have plenty of padding. Good fit for 230lb 38” waist. I have a white biker guy non *, so they don't always stay up perfectly.

They are comfortable either skateboarding or mountain biking. They look great and doesn't pull on you legs when pedaling. The material also, stretches making it easier to pedal without feeling constricted.

Best feature is the padding. The foam padding is better than others i’ve tried. Padded seat stays where it's supposed to be.

They fit so loose that the pad made no contact and dangled inside the short. Padding is thin (looks thick, feels thin) and the bike shorts crept up your leg within 75 revolutions of the pedals they're into your *.

The pad itself is poorly placed on the inner fabric. It is not removable but sewn in. The chamois placement is way too far forward. Absolutely baggy and kept on sagging.

It is far too stretchy, and far too loose to accomplish its task. They're too big for the sizing. Maybe they were made for oversized e-bike people.